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Comment by greggo: ¶
i must agree… religions are nothing more than peoples renditions of the unexplainable wrapped up in neat little packages. and they exist for two big reasons. reason 1: to put the unexplainable force in the universe into more comprehendable terms, and reason 2: control. even many theologists question established churches, aiming a suspicious eye at how each has its own set of “rules”, but also that the main morals are pretty congruent. i agree with you entirely
Comment by Stephen: ¶
Religion Rocks
Comment by Sean Loughran: ¶
I am a kildress hardman wiv no frinds but i an a re student and i love patrick, saint that is
Comment by Some guy: ¶
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Comment by other guy: ¶
dumbass
Comment by Anderw: ¶
I CAN’T stand the ignorance of it all! How much of a battering does scientific evidence have to give the bible before logic gets the upper hand!
Comment by cameron: ¶
i hate religion.. it starts wars and it makes everyone seperated. there are so many religious freaks out there who somehow think that science is a load of bullshit… but guess wat??.. RELIGION IS BULLSHIT.
Comment by Ian: ¶
Religion is barberic and the sooner we move on to no religionat all the better. Or religion will be the downfall of man kind
Comment by SlyyDaugg: ¶
I am sickened with my country’s disregard for it’s population growth (USA), and how religion seems to stand in the way of any national debate on the subject of reducing population.
I think it’s absolutely ludicrous that the majority of my religious fellow Americans see every pregnancy as something to be somehow salvagd in the name of God, regardless of the impact on our Country and our world.
I fucking HATE organized religion with a passion, and have to cry at the wrongs people do in the name of going to heaven when I know in my heart that when every religious zealot closes his/her eyes for the last time, it is eternal nothingness that awaits them.
A total waste of the here and now!!!!!!!!!!!!
SD
Comment by : ¶
Religion is a waste of time it requires you to go to a building to worship some invisable guy who has never shown himself. So if he is this all being all powerfull god why the fuck does he want our money on a regular interval. Religion is just a way for fat bastards who live in Italy to get rich quick but ended up believing in the farse themselves.
Tossers!!!!!!!!
D
Comment by Dog: ¶
Religion is just leftover crap from the cavemen who could not understand their world. Science explains Nature. Natural processes are the real “miracle”.
The real problem is that humans have an awfully hard time saying “I don’t know” to a question of how we got here or what happens after we die. Instead we came up with wild fiction. And people bought (and continue to buy) this stuff hook, line and sinker.
To think some invisible space pixie governs our lives drags us back to 50,000 BCE. You would think that we would want to reflect that we are a thinking species by now instead of making up crap.
Comment by crwazy guy: ¶
weligion is stupid, if i could touch religion, i would use it to wipe my ass
Comment by crwazy guy again: ¶
no seriously, my ass is dirty, dirtier than an altar boy in the back room, with Santa, Michael Jackson, All of the Catholic Church, and Elvis
Comment by crwazy guy again and again: ¶
it needs wiping
Comment by El Dudo: ¶
Absolutely. I think cwazy guy has a point here…what I think he means in the first post is religion, while trying to be the model of humanity, it fails - religion loses sight of why it was founded, and becomes a mere tool in the segregation of humanity. It has become a justification for hate and division. Thus the ass wiping. And the elvis point - I think that speaks for itself :).
Comment by Juan: ¶
Yeah I think El Dudo is right, he sounds smart, and Mexican, so he has to be right. Mexican Pride!
Comment by Anonymous Altar Boy: ¶
I find crazy guy’s comments to be rude and offensive, I have been an Altar Boy for 5 years and I have never had a priest approach me, Michael Jackson, that has nothing to do with religion, and Santa, he’s not even real. I think crazy guy is just that, a confused young person, who is going to burn in hell if he/she/it does not change it’s ways. For seriously, crazy guy, you’re fucked up. OH! and it’s not harassment if you enjoy it!
Comment by amanda: ¶
well let me put it this way…religion does suck..but I am a christian and I do not run off religion. Religion is what makes people dress funny, kill, fight and argue. Come on guys sceince doesnt answer the half of it. We may look like monkeys but monkeys dont look like fish..we are not evolving and even darwin claimed hos theory was only a theory. Evelution is illogical, it tells you the world came from nothing and cant explain how gravity and all those other laws of science got there. Every creation eg: cars..computers have creator..why not us. Look at a leaf for example they are so different from one another, they have a design. Look at male and females…how did both evolve at the same time to evolve. You can hide so much in millions of years and thats just the key. Religion is evil but Christ is the true God. The rest are false and put there to cause havock. Everyone is looking for answers so it seems but the answers are right there. You have sin and you have a concience that tells you there is good evil..well just like you get punished on this earth one day you going to stand before God ( the great judge) and he will judge you. You need someone to pay the price for your sin and thats where Jesus comes in. There is so much proof that he igsisted but then again we all have a free will as God gave us one so you decide what to beleive. Bye bye Manda
Comment by amanda: ¶
I forgot to say..religion is not going to get you anywhere..it isnt the answer but Christ is.. He hates wars and made us to love. When I exceptes christ in its no longer about the church,,life suddenly starts to make sense and the void was filled wiht purpose and so much hope. Because of him I worry for nothing. Here is a website you guys might find helpful….. http://www.davidpaulellenwood.com/expression/rsgr/web/
I just want to say I am for you not against you. I want for you to know the truth so bad..cause the answers are there and they are all around us. Look at the creation..its amaizing and didnt just pop..the answers are here..I hope you find them cause the only way is Christ!
Comment by d.w.: ¶
Google and open comments on old entries — a magical combination. ;)
Comment by Mark: ¶
Amanda, um, to me it sounds like your using religion, sorry Christ, as an excuse to be a good person. I believe that people made religion to conrol, and it is still used to control the impure nature of people. That said this isn;t a horrible thing, making people behave, but it is bad to make them behave through the false threats and lies that the churches use, such as God being the ultimite Judge, and if you do something wrong, you answer to him and SAtan. The Church tells you not to lie, but then it turns around and lies to us. Bear with me here, when you were young you probably believed in Santa a the Boogie man, at least for a little while, Santa is like God, if you do something right, you get a toy, and the Boogie man is like Satan, if you F up then, you get punished, and your parents, who told you that Santa(God) and the Boogie Man(SAtan) exist, to get you to behave well and listen to them, they are like the Catholic Church. I lost my point, people don’t need to be lied to to be decent, and religion is just a waste of time, in following religion too closely, we lose sight of what we really want, to be good people.
Comment by Mark: ¶
Sorry Amanda, I forgot to address your point, yeah Christ, I do believe he existed, as a normal person, human, not God. I don’t know about this for sure… but I don’t think the Messiah was even supposed to be Divine, and besides, he’s only divine becuase a group of people, 300 years after he died, who never knew him, said he was, Jesus’ friends never claimed of preached him as being divine. That said, I think Jesus was on the right path, we need to be good people, and he lived what he taught,and he got carried away and said he was the son of God, people thought this was a big woop, but if you believe in God as the creator, you can make the statment that we are all God’s children, which Jesus said. So Jesus was a normal guy who changed the world by being a decent person. And science doesn’t have all the answers, neither does the bible, and besides the bible wasn’t meant to be taken literally, it was meant to portray the truths of how to be a decent person, I mean common there are two stories of creation, and if the bible is the word of God, then both stories are correct, so there’s more than one Earth, So to believe in the Bible literally is to believe in aliens. Of and just a foot note, there were a lot of unbelievable stories in the bible, and also allot of wine, I THINK THE WINE CAME FIRST… you can’t believe everything you hear, and you can’t shut your mind to the possiblity, that makes you stop growing as a person, because you stick to what you believe, never changing, never growing, which inhibits you from following the original purpose of religion, to grow and become better people.
Comment by Mark: ¶
Amanda, please respond if you have any thoughts on this
Comment by amanda: ¶
Hey ist me again, Yes but you guys go and if we just got here through nothing. You guys can’t beleive in evelution because it proves itself wrong. Scientist will not reveal the truth, I am watching a video about it and do a lot of research into eveltuion and it just does not make sense. And been a christian is not about been a good person, yes there is worng and right and doing good but I am sinner, there is evidence of good and bad in life, where did that come from? Christianity is the only religion that explains that and if you do soemthing wrong on earth you going to get punished so why not before God. Excepting christ is just putting your sin on him and there is so much hidden about christians. Like people been healed. Amaizing things happen in church. satan is a conterfit, that is why there are so many other religions. Have you ever read the koran, it attacks christianity and the jews the whole way through….why???? Cuaes christ is real and someone had to pay for our sin. Your only a child of God if you except chris, and i have a brain in my head, if christ wasnt real and if I didnt find meaning in life from him then I would find better things to do. There was wine in the bible but they never got drunk and if the world id heer why cant amaizing things happen?>?? They have to me! Peoeple have prophesied and they have come to pass so why cant there be a God. He hasnt revealed himself to you because you dont believ in him. I hate religion but I love Jesus Christ. He loves me and corrects me when something is there that will hurt me in my life. There so much to say but I cant put it into words. All I know is christ is real and one day we will see cause there is more to you than a body and where does that go if only your body dies??? Anyways people I love Jesus Christ < I am a fanatic because of what he is done in my life, he heals today and people come off drugs without suffering, gangsters that have been told they will never chnage change over night into new creations and Im so exciting cause Im not an accidient I am a unique loves creature and God knows me well. IM excited and I have a purpose and freed from anorexia and have a freind that will never leave me. God has answered ever prayer on my life and I cry when I read the bible cause it comes alive to me. Other religions as you call them are false, they all based on good works but good works dont save you cause you are covered in sin already but praise the lord I am free. Everyone in the bible is comming true to this day. Thinsg that were talked about 2000 years ago are comming pass today and Im going to watch and enjoy cause I have no fear. The lord is with me and he is alive. IMMMM SO HAPPY!! You have to know the history of catholics and that lot, its facinating. Ahhh Im so happy
Comment by Al: ¶
Amanda, whatever you’re watching or reading about evolution is obviously doing a horrible job of explaining it.
Also, you’re learning about evolution from the viewpoint of constantly looking for ways to prove it wrong, because you think it conflicts with your religious beliefs. The way science works is it doesn’t assume anything. Evolution is a theory, yes, but so is gravity. In science there is no such thing as “truth” just “best guess” and so far, science’s best guess is evolution. It doesn’t require divine intervention to exist. Using what evidence we have, science tries to explain the world around us. Evidence suggests that the plants and animals that we see today came from slightly different animals long ago. The explanation doesn’t require an omnipresent/omnicient/invisible being that nobody can see, hear, or touch to have magically “popped the world out of thin air” 6000 years ago. There is no evidence to support creationism. By saying that God created the world to look old, it’s just making crap up because the evidence doesn’t fit your beliefs.
Comment by amanda: ¶
Okay, You and I are not going to agree because I am set in my ways not because I am blinded but because evolution does not do it for me. Sorry but there has to be someone greater than us with all the answers. If you went walking along a road one day and there was a fully functional computer in the middle of the road, would you a) think it built itself and just got there b) had a designer and creator. I go with creator. We are so more complex than a computer and yet we just got here from now where. You know I personally am greatful that my ass never evolved around my noise cause that could be bad. And how male and female got there, wow thats amaizing. And how everything is so perfect out of one explosion. HOw we have feelings and emotions and all so different. How there is good and bad and how the world is a master peice. HOw there is art and how we create things to. HOw we are not evolving is quite amaizing too. Its also amaizing how much you can hide in millions of years old and how you say somethinng is millions of years old yet no one has lived that long. And there had to be the first humans somewhere so why cant it be adam and eve. Its not so far fetched when you look at it that way. Its also quite cool how people listen to every word scientists say when they once said the earth was flat. You know the sun is shrinking right, well if the world is millions of years old, the sun would be bigger so the earth would be somewhere in the middle of the sun. Thats a bit strange, so how would life evolve anyways cause the sun would have burned it up. The bible is not a science book, it says this and this happened not how. I beleive it because no one can prove it worng, because it takes less faith to beleive in that than science and because God has saved me from so much not because I am good but because when I am bad He moved mountains to help me. He took this guy away after I prayed he would leave because i was about to lose my viginity and I didnt want to. I prayed he would leave cause I couldnt say no and he told me he was leaving the country three weeks later. Maybe you can feel or speack to God becayse you dont beleive in him. But when I am crying he is the one who conforts me. His words chnage hearts but those who harden the hearts from him are lost and you always will be untill you have christ. Stuff evidence cause all I need is written on my heart!
Comment by amanda: ¶
I mean cant feel or speak to God….. OH yah in the bible it says we are created in the image of God…so lets think about that for a second…..if God is a creator or has a creative nature isnt it funny how all humans ever do is create. we create cars, art, dances…I could go on. Then its funny how we destroy..thats the oposite of what God is…so there is evidence of satan and what we call human nature that came through satan.There is so much more to me than a body, phycologists are still trying to figure out why if everything is passed on from genes why arnt we exactly like our parents, yet most of us in character are so different. Maybe….(hehehe) its just cause they give us the body through their bodies but there is more to us (eg a spirit) that makes us an induvidual. And you should hear my pastor preach cause he preaches on how the bible has in it what is happening in the world today and how it is all comming true about the end times and stuff. The bible is comming true today and its 2000 years old. Wow hey!!! You should look into that! Bless you, I hope you get the Joy and peace I have in my spirit cause I have a loving, living breathing God and all you have to do is ask HIm to come into your heart..forgive your sins and show himself to you, and Bless Him cause boy does He come in. Then you get other packages like the baptisisn of the Holy spirit and a lovingh King that will leave 99 sheet to look for one that has gone missing. My life is so full and I am complete cause even when I throw tantrums God is patient with me and loves me still. Praise Him. and Thank you for your time!
Comment by JaXoN: ¶
Religion sucks balls. Life is just an advanced evolution the has happened over billions of years that we can now explain. Why are there such bastards that think there just has to be something or somewhere to go to. WHY? Why don’t they just listen to scientific fact and reason. Pisses me off. Death is not something to be afraid of, you wont even know that your dead. Also, why do people think you go somewhere in the sky after your heart stops beating.
Comment by amanda: ¶
Jaxon, then why does nothing make sence in evelution right from the start. Like how did space get there and who made gravity or friction do what it does. The worl is with design. Not some accident that migically popped here through a bang. Jaxon read my last two comments, see what you think and try explain how in the vastness of space those two little things got together to go bang……pop the world started, we have feelings and emtions cause they eveloved. LOvely story, so suddenly Im an accident and its suddenly the end cause my body packs in due to old age and why do we sie why dont we just evolve bodies that dont decay. Oh no but my boobs start sagging and I die instead. Since sin there is decay. Sorry the bible has more anwers and a real God. Anyways I’ll chat later. People are not idiots who dont beleive what you beleive, they have different points of veiws, evelution should be taught as religion because its just another point of view. Its amaizing how in scinece lessons they always leave out how Chalse Darvin himself admitted elelution could not have happened because it was not logical. And another thing, they say we evolved cause genes got passed on and changed everyone, but then why havent people with brown hair chnaged the whole world, it is a stronger gene then blond? You see if evelution was true we would still have the creature in different stages still reamaing cause they wouldnt all chnage at the same time. Who said God is in the sky?
Comment by Mark: ¶
Amanda, eveolution is a theory, it’s not the definitive truth because it was written by man\woman. The bible was also written by people, not God, it is not the definitive truth, it is an attempt to explain what we do not comprehend, there are two stories of creation, so which one is THE TRUTH, do you know? I bet you don’t I don,t either, I can’t prove your religion wrong, because it is an opinion, an opinion is a point of view, it’s what you belive, so what you belive is the TRUTH, for you at least its the TRUTH. Opinions are opinions, you can not prove them wrong, but that doesn’t make them true, I can’t prove you wrong, and likewise you can’t prove me, but we can try to persuade each other… How did everything work out so perfectly in life? well,it’s simple probability, remember, if you had enough time, a monkey could type Shakespeare. Things fit so well together, because they had to to work, like why do we have emotions? because they are complex combinations of our learning of our environment and of human instinct, for instense, why are some peolpe afraid of snakes, because ancient man/woman got killed by snakes and learned to avoid/ fear them, becuase they kill us, not because they tricked us into eating forbidden fruit. And if God created everything, how come there are Homosexuals, I mean, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, am I correct? So if God didn’t create them who did?… Was it SATAN, are Homosexuals SIN, I don’t think so, in fact everyone that I know is a very cool and good person, so who created homosexuals? Why have we stopped evolving?, eveolution occurs when the fittest survive, if you notice, we have been making tools, which replace the act of evolving, because the tools we make keep us from having weak people die off befor they pass on their genes. So instead of us evolving, our tools have, we started with sticks, and now our tools have evolved all the way to… COMPUTERS! So why haven’t we evolved to live longer, well actually, we have. Notice that over the years life expentency has gone up, our great grandparents were lucky to live to abou 70 or 80, now we are expected to live past 100, so yeah we’re evolving. and lastly, the human brain has evolved into a complex thing, capable of emotions, yes emotions come form chemical reactions in your brain, not from God, love is the human instinct to find a person with good genes, to combine yours with, so you can make more people. Emotions, intelligence, tools, they are all a product of evolution. I’m predicting that the world will end, if it happens, and guess waht, it gonna come true, so does that make me Jesus? Does it make my point any more valid that I predicted one thing, which is bound to happen, because of probability and just reason, so I got one point right, are all the others true just becuase I got one thing right?
Comment by Beyond Human: ¶
Think beyond the boundries of space and time.
Comment by Beyond Human: ¶
Think beyond the boundries of space and time.
Comment by Beyond Human: ¶
Think beyond the boundries of space and time.
Comment by Comment to Beyond Human: ¶
Think
Comment by me to beyond human: ¶
Dumbass
Comment by WHAT?!: ¶
Amanda, how old are you, because your blind faith is the equivalent of a four year old’s, and for a four year old to be worried about losing it’s virginity is just wrong…
Comment by Amanda Ballinger: ¶
Well lets see then, where did space come from and that lot. I am sorry but it takes more faith to beleive in evelution. You still didnt manage to answer the question about the sun, or most of the other stuff. You see all you have to say to me is we dont have the whole picture yet. Thats an excuse. The spirit of God wrote the book through people, only once you beleive can the book become alive. Faith is the key, you have lots you just putting it in the wrong place. Satan came up with homosexuals because God made adam and steve, satan causes man to abuse what God created, like sex before marage, if we all has sex after marrage like the world intended there would be less unplanned births etc. Why do we need morrels if we are animals? Why then if we evolved and still are why are we all at the same level of evelution and all the animals around us of the different species. Answer that please. Or let me guess you dont have all the answers yet. I am going to bed but I think the concience in each of you will tell you there is a creator or at least more out there. The reason why people hate the thought of there been a God is cause then they have to make choices and they hate the fact they do things wrong and conviction kills them so they hide afraid of the truth. I am sure of what I believe in. The bible tells you the world will end and how, you can’t! Good night Its comming true to this day, and praise God cause you dont have to beleive in Him to make him not there, like busses, you can cross a road saying you don’t beleive untill you get hit. You see what I mean. People are not eveolving they are just learning stuff to do with medicine and stuff that has always been there. Its like with the wheele you dont start recreating it you start where the last person finished and inprove it.
Comment by Mark: ¶
Okay, i didn’t answer the sun question becuase you never said how fast the sun is shrinking, how fast is it shrinking, because the sun right now is really, really, really far away from the Earth, the sun would have to be at least a bigillion times bigger for it to consume the Earth. And the theory that the earth was created at the exact same time as the Earth, or that when the Earth was in the spot that it is now, and base your calculations of the sun enveloping the Earth off that, is to take for granted that things never change, we all now that things change, the only thing that doesn;t change is change, and I may not have all the answers, you don’t either, it’s not an excuse, no one has all the answers, I am trying to find the answers just like you, this is why I am discussing this with you, to share knowledge, so we can learn from each other. I was Catholic for 17 years, and I did not find the answers through “GOD”, so I opened my mind to science, and I have found it to contain more answers than religion ever did, and the answers make allot more sense, I am trying to find the truth the best I can by comparing all posibilities and keeping my mind open, you have shut your mind to the possibility of science having any answers, and so you cut yourself short, you loose most of your education on the subject, thus making the best point that you have, one tinted with bias and a hardened heart. You also said, “like the world intended” when I refer to the comment on abstinence in the last post, does this mean that you agree that the world, not God can have an effect on our emotions/standards, not just God or Satan, proving that emotions can come from people and their suroundings, not just God.”Why then if we evolved and still are why are we all at the same level of evelution and all the animals around us of the different species” it;s evolution, first of all, second of all, not all of us are at the same level of evolution, notie that some people are genetically inclined to be tall, such as the people of Africa, to better suit their habitat of the wide open plains, and Europeans are inclined to be short and smaller, making them more inclined for their habitat of thick forest. God only created Adam and Eve, right, so were did all the races of the world come from, if the bible only mentions him making two people, that leaving a maximum amount of possible races being two, there’s allot more than two. Different species came forth when communities of animals get seperated from the larger pool, note the Galapogose Islands, do a little search on these islands and evolution and you should get a few more answers. And I’ll leave you with this, if God can work through people, maybe God is working through me to enlighten you to the posibilty that Faith and Science don’t contradict each other, for if some thing is the truth, it can not contradict another truth, also remember that the Church was the first institution to make universities, whiched used science to better understand the truths of God.
Comment by Mark: ¶
Oh yeah, and you ignored this question for five of your posts, there are two stories of creation in the bible, which one is the truth?
Comment by amanda ballinger: ¶
I am only familier with one creation story and that is in the king James bible so where did this other one come from ? Whats it called, that is really interesting!!! I will have to look at that! Okay bye now
Comment by amanda ballinger: ¶
Well first of all I have nothing against science. I beleive God created it but I don’t beleive in evelution. Its not that I have herdened my heart its just that it does not make sense. Well then if God was using you to tell me to open my mind why would he write a book? Second in the bible there is a story in the bible called the tower of babel or something like that where God split us up because we tried to build a tower to reach God and be like him or something but it proberly simbolised something else happening but to do with that. Maybe you eveloved from a monkey but I did not. What are the chnages of the same fish been in different lakes all over the world evolving into the same monkeys and then into different coloured humans that had the exact same organs etc. Thats takes a lot of faith. I could go on and I swear to you I would but I’m not going to….because you don’t believe and I do not have the power to make you. We can compare everything we want but as I said I have found God, maybe you were looking in the wrong area, maybe you didn’t truly beleive in God in the beginning so how can he reveal himself to you. And were you born again? There is so much that happens in the world that evelution can not explain. And please tell me how a brainless peice of blob would decide to evolve. The sun thing was a good point, but then it could have been shrinking faster then so I just dont get why the world is so perfect. Look at a leaf, they all different and all different designs. To me thats enough evidence. Anyways Im going to end this here and IM have decided not to argue anymore cause you are set in your ways and I am set in mine. You missing out purpose in your life though! I have one you just a mistake but thats what you chose to be!
Comment by Brokenmachine: ¶
Honestly, no person on this earth has any idea what is going to happen them when they die. I believe ever religion is wrong. I believe in God, and GOD is so big, there is no telling what his plans are, and no one honestly knows why they exist.
To teach children fairy tales and lies from the bible (Any bible for that fact) is wrong.
The answer to what happens to you when you die? The answer to who/what is God?
Should simply be : “I don’t know”
Comment by d: ¶
You people that say religion is bad because it starts wars and devides people crack me up…
More wars have been started by atheists than any form of religion (genghis khan, hitler, stalin, mussolini, etc…)
The 4+ million people killed by an atheist during the Holocaust is a great example.
The only way to stop war, end violence, poverty and bigotry is to deprive people of the right to think freely. If nobody is allowed to think what they want, then nobody will think differently and hence there will be no devision.
But that just wouldn’t be right would it…. So what are we to do…
Comment by wileycoyote: ¶
The comments by d are typical of religious fools. Everyone knows (except d, apparently) that more blood had been shed during mans history over “religion” than for any other reason. Some day I hope to see all organized religions banned. If you sin God will burn you in hell for eternity. But, He loves you. And he needs money. He can create the universe but he has a problem with money. And he don’t mind letting catholic priests molest little boys. Some God.
Comment by Jesus H. Christ: ¶
Look, damn it, evolution as a theory does not explain everything, but evolution as a practical process is a fact. It is repeatable and repeatably verifiable. The fact that there are missing components in the overall theory does not negate this. The Bible is chock full of contradictions and absudities. Amanda says who started evolution, well who started God. Same deal. Evolution has always existed. Besides, when I was crucified, I just waited till sunset was let down and moved to France where I had some children. Most of there offspring moved to Germany and eventually ended up in England. One day my insane plot to carry on the blood line of Adam through direct lineage as Kings will unfold!!! Hey, wait a minute, we all came from Adam. Damn what a waste of time… Oh yeah and Adam was a FUCKING MONKEY!!! YOU STUPID RELIGIOUS ASSHOLES!!!
Comment by Mel: ¶
YOU SUCK!
ABORT CHRIST
JOIN MY CULT
FREEDOM OF NO CHOICE
Comment by Chris Haines: ¶
Organized religion is the root of all evil. Leaders use it to control others and violate peoples’ right to their bodies and property. Sure there are some well intentioned religious people, but on the whole I believe the world would be better off without religion.
Comment by ???: ¶
“religion is the opiate of the people”
Comment by fuzzyk: ¶
Religion does not suck. People suck. If you read the Bible, it only teaches nice things.
It propagates concepts like love, charity and forgiveness. Not much else. It’s people, (yes, you and me) who make up things about it. The bible does not talk about wars, sexual orientation, women’s rights etc. Well not the New Testament anyways, which is what Christianism is. Do not mix everiything together as “religion”. Forget science for a second, and just think. What did Jesus say? Forgive, love, be good with the less fortunate. THAT IS IT. That’s what you have to get, not much else.
Remember, all this stuff about science vs hristian science, rules of behavior, etc… was made up by PEOPLE. All The Bible says is “be nice to people”.
It’s that simple. But of course, it’s human nature to blame someone else. And who better than God?
Uh… it’s not my fault… it’s the stupid God!I don’t believe in him. Uh… it’s not mine either… I go to church every day, I’m saved.
The fact that aliens altered the dna of monkeys to create us has nothing to do with “the essence” of The Bible.
Comment by Gary: ¶
If god is so damn good, then why did he create such a shit hole like Ethiopia so his people could live in poverty?
Comment by matt: ¶
ye i think religion is a complete waste of time i think pple who r religious would just believe anythin to make their life seem worth whil.wake up there is no god , no adam and eve and some very rich bloke wrote the bible so take it from me believe in science that is the future thats all kids!
Comment by loocy: ¶
Evidence why religion just does NOT work
Right, well just to make the point glisteningly clear, please notice that no capitals have been used in this text of these religious terms, because the reason of a capital letter is to show importance and, to be quite honest, religion is far from it!
Christians believe that “god is everywhere” and “god is in everything”. Therefore he is in this ink, on this page and in your big toe. Now, christians also believe that god doesn’t have a physical form, therefore either god doesn’t exist or nothing exists. Hmmm… So if “god is everything”, then you must be god, and so must be the book you are reading, therefore god is reading himself. Or, like they say, if “god is in everything” then you are god, and then so must be the food you are eating - god is eating himself!
I do not think so!
According to “christian references” they also believe in something they call “free will”
Well, here’s a quote from an abortion sheet that we were told to learn in “religious education”,
Something called a psalm - “All the days planned for me were written in your book before I was one day old”.
- So much for the free will!
And then the roman catholic church states that abortion under any circumstance is wrong, even if a woman is to loose her life while carrying a baby, she will surely die because they believe that only their god can end life and is otherwise murder but their religion is actually murdering her, therefore the woman and most probably the baby will die too. Surely it’s better for one of two to live than both the two to die? But that’s just religion folks. Be humanist. and can i just add that religion fighting over each other has killed enough people since day 1 fighting over who has the invisible friend in the sky. also it is a scientific fact that the world has been alive for a few billion years, but according to christianity abt 8000. you see the problem lies at the start when preachers went round telling people to listen to them because what they believe is so good that if you believe me and my religion you will be forever looked after if you follow these rules and you will come to no harm and you have a promise afterlife etc etc etc. well nothing bores me more than thinking about what’ll happen in the “heaven” you speak of. seriously ok?, lyring around on a cloud playing a harp for the rest of eternity i’m sorry but that doesnt appeal to me. and seriously that doesnt happen does it. in the sky? you must be insane to believe!. people who say they have heard the voice of god or god has spoken to them. i also don not wish to believe. i cant believe you because it hasnt happened to me so don’t tell/make me what to think otherwise.science=logic which has an explanation about anything somewhere. seriously. THINK FOR YOURSELVES. next time you go into the libray ut the bible in the fiction section. ta!
Comment by Macpilgrim: ¶
I’d just like to respond to the person who said that the second world war was not abt religion, IT WAS. hit ler wanted an aryan race ( adam and eve) thr ayran race were the original people on the earth according to the bible, its just that hitler went a little too far with his idea. Other wars have been the crusades, then you have the everlasting and ongoing war over israel or palestine what ever you want to call it. and by war u dont have to mean people dyng and et… what about the catholic church trying to ban condoms in south america because they spread aids???. I dont find anything wrong with religion, its just the fact that they are so arogant and think there better then themselves, so if there is a second coming and jesus does return i wonder who he’ll judge first me for being open to new things , or the christians for being arrogant, self centered, racist, prejudice, and indirectly responsible for highest amount of deaths the world has known.
PS. buddhism is not a religion, they are open minded that is why they say “may YOUR god go with you”
Comment by fuzzyk: ¶
I think the “religion is bad because…where is god?…how come he created “famine”?…abortion issues etc etc” is a too simple point of wiew.
Take any war… Hey… it religion’s fault. People are massacred and famished. Don’t look at me…religion’s fault. Reality check good and righteous people! War is never about “religion”, it’s about money, and more money, and oil, so you and me can buy SUV’s and be fat. Take responsability already.
Even before Jesus, before Christianism, and Islam and Judaism, the same thing, some were rich, and others poor. The strong f***s up the weak.
But “religion” of course sais don’t do that, help the weak, love him and don’t f**k him up. So what do we say? Religion is of course bad.
Don’t listen to “religious” people and “their message”. Anybody who claims knows the truth is a hypocrite. Read the bible and make up your own mind.
Comment by Maberz: ¶
on May 21st 2004 i believe it was, amanda said something extremely narrow minded. probably the most narrow mind thing i’ve ever read. she wrote that all other religions are false! how can you know that for a fact huh? for all we know Hinduism is the only ‘real’ religion. I am not religious in any way but that does not mean i cannot accept other peoples beliefs. I find what u said offensive and its narrow minded people like u (especially narrow minded religious people) who put shame upon society
Comment by Maberz: ¶
you know what, i forgot 2 mention, religion is a load of B.S!!! the Bible contradicts itself SOOO MANY TIMES!!!! it even contradicts the contradictions! also amanda, how can u say Christianity is the only ‘real’ religion when jesus was a F*G JEW!!!!!
Comment by Macpilgrim: ¶
Religion is a safety blanket.
When humans evolved to the point when we knew we were going to die, and that every living thing on earth would at one point die we got scared, so scared we invented an afterlife. But if there is an afterlife, why is it against the 10 commandments to kill, surely you’d be sending them to a better place, oh well, it’s too complicated for me. And remember one of the stupidest things the church has ever said when they executed galileo for saying that the earth revolved around the sun, ” Saying the earth revolved around the sun is like saying jesus was nnot bore from a virgin”
Comment by Dave: ¶
one thing that annoys me is that the vast majority of christians are so because they have been indoctrinated by this religion since youth. so there is an argument in saying they believe only because they were told to. most christians i have met havnt read the koran dont understand bhudism od hinduism. they dont understand them because they dont need them , they already have their religion. if it were me and the choice of religion predicated weather i was going to sugar candy mountain or the firey depths of hell, that woul be the kind of decision i would want to research. at least if your going to be religious have a look at the alternatives as im sure at the gates of whatever heaven we end up at as at the nuremberg trials the argument that i was told to do it wont hold water
Comment by Religion is for the blind: ¶
Gee I always laught at the devouted religious people… And think how delude they really are..
wake up!, if you could only see yourself from our perspective,you would realise how dumb religion is..
Heres my point of view for being an Atheist. Firsty why are they roughly 6000+ religions in the world? and why do you believe chrsitainity to be the “only” right one..that means 3/4 of theworld is going to hell right??
on evolution.. Ever heard of carbon dating?…its a scientific proven method..like gravity is a proven fact… how do you explain the fossils found that are millions of years old? how do you explain dinosours being round millions of years before “Adam and Eve”?
evolution can explain and virtually prove every single event in the history of the Universe,bar one..the big bang theory..which actually has ALOT of evidence supporting it..
All you guys do is say. God made it all..cant explain somthing?..lets just say God did it.. God used to make it rain before science proved it wrong,God use to make earthquakes when angry,science proved them wrong…
Speaking of evolution etc, this always cracks me up.. The Bible clearly states no “inbreeding” or procreation between relatives right?… well if Adam and Eve were the only 2 humans..why the hell did God only make just TWO of them to procreate?..
This mean EVERY single man and woman on earth is related!!!!…this in itesleve proves chrsitianity is false.
Also, the bible was writted by men claiming the Earth is flat…doesn’t give it much credibility does it.
Another thing that cracks me up is Noah’s Ark.. you christians say you dont beleive in evolution cause it doesn’t make sense,yet you blindly believe that the whole earth was covered in water for 40 days?!!..c’mon.. also another point..this also means every single animal on earth today is inbread! if Noah only took one of each,this must be true,and Noah had 3 sons?..so his sonds slept with their mum after the flood to procreate?…again,proves religion isn’t true
if God does exist(which he doesn’t) he is a real bastard, and I want nothing to dowith him..
Spanish inquisition=deaths of millions in the name of God…
hundrews of thousands of women put to death because they were witches in the name of god..
Adolf Hitler had his plans for eradicating the Jews sanctioned by the church(im not kidding here)… Adolf Hitler was a devouted christian,and at one point was considering becoming a bishop…no kidding..its a fact..go research it.
Christianity is a copied religion from Paganism.Go research it..and you’l be amazed how similar they are.
Heaven and Hell… any god who says I must follow him or I will be commited to hell for eternity,isn’t a God worth following in the first place..whereas a rapist and murderer can go to church each week and ask for forgivness and get into heaven…what a joke..
Also,even if hell did exist,God claims no one is beyond forgivness…So all i have to do just as Im about to die is say I want to be forgiven and I will go to heaven…defeats the prupose of living a good life no?
Also who would want to go to Heaven,A place where I would have to worship God every single day and tell him how god he was….bugger that..
I challenge all you christians out there,what proof do you have God exists?..have you every seen him? I sure as hell haven’t…show me some proof and I’ll be at church next sunday..
Lastly,heres a funny fact..its been proven religious beleif is indirectly proportional to ones intelligence…so in simple terms for you religious lot..the more intelligent someone is,the less likely he/she is to believe in God…
proven fact..
Comment by do what you want: ¶
one thing that makes me thing religion is some fked up bs is satan… In the “bible”(im guessing on this, never read the dam thing) satan is the enemy of God and jesus,satan controls hell right? and a sin is something bad that satan makes you do(so ive heard)and that the other side doesnt like it. If a sin is something that satan makes you do, y then would you be punished by satan for doing what he wanted u to do? Just throwing something out there
Comment by Christian-like but Agnostic: ¶
I believe in the teachings of religion in so much that you should be charitable and help your neighbor but when these clerics from all over the religious world start blaming the tsunamis on a vengeful god, I must take exception. The are just preying upon an ignorant constituency and taking a tragedy and using it to further there own agenda. Man created god any one who can’t see that is a FOOL.
Comment by Dan: ¶
The amount of hostility towards religion reflected in these commentaries astonishes me. Several comments were made about the hostilities of religious people to those of other religions, those of no religion and those who are also of a similiar if not identical religion. Yet those who are hostile towards religion, especially Christianity, do not see how hostile they themselves are being. People who act miserably to other people of different faiths, etc. only speak for themselves. For all the good people of religious faith do, yet it’s the negative acts of some that are the most remembered. I firmly believe in God. Yet I’m still “searching” spiritually. Whether I come back to the Roman Catholic Christianity of my upbringing I’m not currently certain. I may be non-religious or I may continue to search and may never find a spiritual niche to belong to or call my own. I certainly don’t have all the answers. Expecting and demanding evidence about religion from a scientific perspective is not practical. This is because science,for the most part, is grounded upon verifiable experimentation. Religion, however, is grounded upon faith.
Comment by Religion Hater: ¶
Reply to Crazy Guy
Although religion is not solid and you can’t wipe your ass with religion.
You CAN wipe your ass with the pages of the bible. Start with matthew 3:15 and wipe loads of shit off your ass.
Although, I don’t recommend it, because then you would be infecting your ass with biblical verses. Remember, the shit must come out of your ass, not enter it.
So it’s not wise to shove religion up your ass, your lower intestines deserve better than that.
Comment by MISSY: ¶
SURLY THE ONLY REAL FAITH ONE CAN HAVE IS IN ONES SELF! IV TRIED THEM ALL REALLY BUT EVEN THE WESTERN BHUDIST MONKS ARE ONLY OUT TO SCREW THE PRITTY LITTLE BELIVERS, IVE BEEN ABUSED BY A BHUDIST MONK AND A RABI AND GOD DIDNT HELP ME ONCE !!!
Comment by voiceofreason: ¶
those of you who find that religion “sucks” or is “bullshit” really are lost in life. religion allows one to actually believe in something instead of just living not really knowing why you are living, what put you on this earth, and for what reason. Religion doesnt suck it is those who hide behind the cloak of religion, who fight and harm others under the misconception that they are doing it for their religion, that suck. people who take a peaceful and calming religion and turn it to a power crazed, dark spirited way of living that should be considered bullshit. True religion is wonderful and allow one to live with the knowledge of why they are living
Comment by jesussucks!: ¶
christianity is a farse in every sense of the word. modern C. is not even the original faith of jesus who was himself a jew(mel gibson didnt get the memo). Emperor Constantine converted to and manipulated C. to his own selfish ends. In effect he rewrote the bible. Personally i think religion is a load of bullshit but it should be noted that modern christians are whorshipping the word of a devote pagan roman emperor looking to expange his powerbase. Constantine combined popular pagan and christian/jewish beliefs to create modern catholosism. they even changed jesus’s birthday. Religion is the opiate of the masses….that would make christianity some pretty hight end shit :>) oh and one more cool tidbit, a 15th century pope actually turned a wing of the vatican into a royal brothel, not jk it was ob the HISTORY CHANNEL!
p.s. ignore amanda shes an ignorant bitch. thats all.
Comment by Mike: ¶
I just want to start off by saying that I was born a Catholic and was forced through church school, which sucked balls, but never believed in it. Here’s why: Everyday archeoligists find proof suporting evolution, from fossils (millions of years further in time than the bible cared to go)to the fact that we are extreamly similar to hominids that walked about six million years ago. Wait when did the bible say man was made six THOUSAND years ago. Hmm one idea has more proof than we know what to do with, while the other has only a book and it’s blind followers. Second, the only point of religion was to keep people from killing everyone they can by setting some kind of morality. But of course our forefathers even fckd that up by trying to scare people into doing what they want by telling them that if they go against the church (or whatever) will send them to hell. Wars have been started in the name of god killing millions throughout history. Still today extremists kill all they can that don’t share what they believe in, using religion as a shield by mearly saying they are ‘gods’ workers. One more beef I have with religion is that people have been taking advantage of the people’s blind faith, by taxing them whatever they can, “requesting” donations to keep coming to the church (or whatever). For Example, in the time before the french revolution, there were three groups of people: the nobles, the clergy, and, everyone else. The clergy and the nobles didn’t have to pay taxes but the curch was allowed to take about a quarter of what the poor made.
Comment by that guy over there: ¶
Actual Earth= 30+ million years old Bible’s earth= 6000 years old… there, that proves it right there
Comment by religoscience: ¶
Some important statistics for your analysis
- All date differences are based on current
The age of Earth = 5 Billion years old The total age of Earth = 11 Billion years ( predicted by scientists )
We still have 6 billion years to rock ..
Dinosours dissapeared 65 million years ago by meteor disaster
Estimate - 5 million years for the Earth to heal
60 Million years ago .. Life restarted gradually.
60 Million years is a very very long time .. anything could happen ..
GOD never said when he created human. Archeologists said man are 5 millions years old based on the oldest homo-sapiens skull they find. If they cannot find older skull, that doesnt mean that human can’t exist longer than that. Edgar Cayce said that man existed 10.5 million years ago.
Lets take 10.5 million years as a yardstick, what happen to Earth before 10.5 million years ??
From 60 million to 10.5 million is a gap of 49.5 million years … its a long long time too.
Could god have created another species of human within this period ?? Could any new dinosours appearred during this period ??
Religious text are written by ancient man who has little knowledge of scientific terms .. most of the time, they may not be accurate in expressing a fact.
Comment by Cesar: ¶
My problems with religions aren’t the effects we see from day to day. My problem with religion lies in how unstable it all really is. The main organized religions (i.e. Christianity) are all based on interpretations of texts that were writter centuries and millenia after the events occured. I can read the bible/koran/torah and come to any conclusion i want to come to, that’s what gave power to zealots like Bin Laden.
People created god, not the other way around . Every major civilization has had its own interpretations of how the world started, who created it, why it was created, whom it was created for, and where we’ll end up after we die. It’s human nature to be curious and attempt to explain things, that said - all explanations aren’t correct. I am an agnostic, i do not believe in god but i also wont rule out the possibility of there being a superior being(s). I do not care where im going or why i am here, what matters is what i am doing now and that i am here.
Religion is like a crutch, in the beginning it enabled the disabled. Unfortunately, as time progressed, what once enabled people now disables them and distorts their perceptions. And that is my ultimate problem with religion, it turns good people into closed minded zealots.
Comment by me: ¶
im anti-religous, but wouldnt care if it werent for one thing: Stop trying to shove religion down everone’s throats. Let us believe if we want to, dont try and force it on us like crack dealers
Comment by ?: ¶
if anything….christianity more bs than anything…..how can it be the only true religion… saying that you should worship only one god….but for many years before that we had….JUDAISM…a religion that believed in one god, the same one that christianity later picked up… a lot longer than christianity…….. and also Jesus was a JEW… so he believed that his father was the one,true god….but he did not believe that through himself(Jesus) could you be saved….had that been the case, then jesus would have been a bit egotistical, as in saying…”hey, you. you want to get into heaven? well then you better start thinking that im(Jesus) the best thing to ever happen to anything and im the only way into heaven” The way it looks to me, was while Jesus may have been god’s son, he was merely sent as, essentialy, just a messenger to SPREAD GOD’S WORD, to tell the people of earth what god thinks, how he wants us to act. God just wants us to believe that he is the only god and that he just wants us to have faith in him. In the christian point of view, its like this… “Yes there is only one god. Yes we believe in him, but believing what he wants us to isnt good enough, no, he had a son who preached god’s word and that means that Jesus is the only way to get into heaven..just forget about the notion that believing in the one, true god is enough, you should get it into your head that god’s son, mainly just a messenger is gonna save you….. On one last point…… leave buddism alone….. even if they worship an idol, which by the way, they dont think of buddha as a god, more like a head of society, a figure head for them, like the many teams and different products have a mascot, and buddism more like a lifestyle rather than a religion, it just gives you ways to be a better person, it doesnt make any claim to be the true religion, nor does it make any claims other than if you follow its teaching you will be better off…
Comment by Jennifer: ¶
I left organized religion, and I never plan to return. I see how easily it can brainwash you. You see these people driving fancy cars, dressing up in their pretty clothes, giving their 10% tithe so they can pay for the upkeep of their huge churches. I do not like religion, but I do believe in God and an afterlife. Something or someone had to create us. If you think about it, science points to an origin for everything. Even Darwin said our origin is from monkeys. But something had to create those monkeys. Something had to create the universe. I don’t think science disproves God; it proves that a supreme being exist. By the way I was an atheist for a little while, but logic pointed me to believe in a supreme being not religion.
Comment by Infidel: ¶
Religion is mental illness.
It might as well be called religionoia.
Therefore, religious people are religionoids.
Whether or not this is some sort of genetic flaw, or a flaw in upbringing is debatable. Either way, religion must be undermined by education and the employment of critical thinking. The acceptance of theology, and the belief systems associated with them provides far to many shortcomings than positives.
Schizophrenics are medicated and/or treated for their disorder - their delusional architecture is disassembled so that they can grasp reality. Is the acceptance of a belief system any different than the acceptance of a schizophrenic delusional architecture? Religion has simply become a more ‘socially acceptable’ form of illness (not to vilify the mentally ill, who suffer, struggle and finally overcome their mental malaise unlike their religious counterparts).
As said before, education and critical thinking has to be employed to undermine the evils of religion and the associated mental and physical agony that accompanies it. It is not simply enough to ban religion - such a measure is only a bandaid solution - it must be revealed for the memetic virus that it is.
Demagogues around the world use religion to control and subvert the masses to their insidious power hungry ends. Religion is being used to start pointless wars and meaningless bloodshed. Religion is used to recruit the mentally vulnerable to perform acts of henious terrorism. Religion is not a noble endeavor, nor a humane trait. This phenomena has to stop.
I loathe the first caveman that came up with this insane concept. If there were an afterlife, this individual would surely suffer for the inhumanity they had wrought upon the Earth.
Religion is evil. Wake up, humanity! This should be the age or reason!
Comment by emery w: ¶
religion was invented because people wanted a way to look good by judging other people. these are the ignorant people that choose a side and then it’s black n’ white from that point on; 100% right and 100% wrong, nothing in between. you put out another way of looking at things and then snap, their mind gets locked and they swallow the key. throw anything youve got at them, even undeniably proven facts, and they shoot it down and dont want to hear any more about it. theyll rally support by accusing science as an insult, or evil, or a conspiracy. “I DIDNT EVOLVE FROM NO MONKEY” if you dont know what im talking about, vist the page www.flat-earth.org and see the “scientists” who derived facts proving the earth to be flat. science is god.
Comment by emery: ¶
by the way jennifer, someone didnt create monkeys, thats not what darwin said if you knew any thing about his theory.he didnt mean to imply that monkeys were created instead of humans. monkeys evolved from simpler and simpler forms, which formed from carbon and other stellar matter. i think you confuse knowing a theory with hearing the most basic explanation.
Comment by ehet: ¶
if any religion….judaism would be the best….. it was the first single-god religion, the best, and it will be the last….. the “son of god” was a jew…thats all you need to know…. christianity is a farse… jesus was only spreading “god’s” word with no intent to start another religion….. so basically… christianity at the lowest level… is founded upon judaism and it’s teachings…… if at any point in the bible, jesus said something about him being the only way into “heaven” then it would just seem that he had a large ego going on……. and christianity was started by others some few hundred years after his death…. whos to say ppl back in those times could interpret the teachings the way jesus said…. or that the later european ppl translated it correctly……. if there is a god…. then judaism is the way to go……. i just cant see how ,judaism, which has been around for a lot longer, and believed in the same god christianity later picked up, can be replaced by another that comes along a lot later.and also, dont let any christians tell you that you are not a good person just b/c u dont think the way they do….religion does not decide that, you and your peers do. judaism is real religion, christianity is a farse used to control ppl….. the son of god was a jew, that right there means a lot, sent to earth to spread god’s word and to help his ppl( the jews) out. If jesus was a jew, and christians are so posessed with doing what he did and being like him…. then they should convert….Jesus was a jew…. and if christianity is the one, true religion, then how could the son of god be soo wrong?
Comment by Jonathan: ¶
Organized relegion sucks. If we all treated each other with the basic principles of humanity we would all be much better off. I don’t think that people who believe in god or allah or whatever it is they believe in are wrong. I just think they are self centered and only want there theory to be right. I can’t see a loving god not letting a good person into heaven just because he didn’t go to some building once a week. I believ in god just not, your god. Your go lets you down all the time. By your i mean anyone who is a follower of a modern organized church. If we were all just nice to eachother then we wouldn’t even have to bicker about this.
Comment by Rey: ¶
and now a moment of silence oh yea …much needed
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RELIGIONOIDS SUCK!
Comment by Jason Tucker: ¶
why is it that religious people can’t spell worth a damn, or formulate a cogent sentence? I think it must have something to do with having your brains knocked out by years of BS, most often throughout their formative years. Amanda, this post is for you. I don’t hate you because I don’t know you, but your words enrage me because you make the common mistake of confusing doctrine and dogmatic crap for fact. You actually sound like a nice young girl, and if not for the whole religion thing we’d probably hit it off. That being said… I realized I was a hardcore atheist about ten years ago, but only started telling friends and family about five years ago. I was desperate to avoid the inevitable confrontation I knew I would encounter from people (my overbearing mother especially) when I let that bomb drop. Not a day goes by when I don’t feel incredibly liberated by my decision, because I know I have cast off the veil of ignorance, denial, guilt and stupidity which religion uses to cloud people’s minds. Look at our country for a moment. the ‘04 election was a wake up call for every sane individual in this country. look at the blue states, then look at the red. we’re being consumed from within by this cancerous plague of religion. looking at the map, it would appear that i would not care to live in or even visit approximately 80 percent of the country. this notion sickens me to the ver core of my being, and not a day goes by when I’m forced to see our ignoramus of a president destroy a little bit more of our planet, our stability as an economic power, and our clout in the international community. we did this to ourselves (well, not ME - i voted with my brain instead of with a bible). the most intensely unbearable thing, for me, is that there is actually a book called “George Bush, man of Faith” or some crap like that which actually CELEBRATES this idiot for ruling the nation through religion! What the hell ever happened to secularity? THE LAST TIME WE GOVERNED THROUGH RELIGION THEY CALLED IT THE DARK AGES
And Amanda, dear, evOlution (if you’re going to research it, as you claim you are, you better spell it correctly) is real. Man doesn’t simply “look” like apes, but our DNA is incredibly similar. Both species are primates, and in case you mentioned this earlier, as so many jesus-lickers do, in error, evolution theory doesn’t state that apes “became” men. There are still apes, aren’t there? The theory instead points to a missing link in the evolutionary ladder. Here is a grab-bag of fun facts the bible and most religions in general can’t account for, and when confronted by them, reverts to rhetoric such as “it was done by the devil to confuse you!”:
1.) the world is roughly 6 billion years old. that’s considerably more that the couple thousand which the bible lays claim to :B
2.) dinosaurs - yeah, you heard me. big scaly green muthafuckers with attitudes. they existed, they died, they turned to oil, now we have a religious idiot waging war over it and spreading “democracy and freedom” along the way. I think those are codenames for “bodies” and “chaos” but i could be wrong about that
3.) it doesn’t take a genius to understand the natural laws of physics and nature. luckily for you, you have one to explain it to you so here goes: the world works as it does, in all of its complexity because a.) you nor I know how many times life tried and failed in this universe before the correct conditions came along to jumpstart life on our planet, b.) the earth has had 6 billion years to evolve (see points 1 and 2) and c.) ever heard of the big bang? the universe is expanding, and we can do the reverse-extrapolation to pinpoint the exact center of the universe. pretty cool, eh?
now, if you’re going to ask me what there was before the big bang, or where exactly our universe is expanding TO…i would simply say “I don’t know yet” - i WOULDN’T make up some cock-and-bull ghost story to scare little children into behaving, lest they burn in hell forever (because , you know, god is like love and stuff).
I am a good person (pay my taxes, help people whenever i have the opportunity, give to worthy causes and protect the innocent) because I know that it is the right thing to do to BE a good person. I don’t need your bullshit dogma or invisible man in the sky to tell me that, and i certainly don’t need someone who thinks like you in the whitehouse, holding back any and all scientific progress while single-handedly piloting the country into the ground. so Amanda, dearheart, read a book written in THIS goddamned century for a change, and OPEN YOUR MIND, you twit
Comment by lilly: ¶
I would like to learn more about evelution,i do beleive that is where we came from. catholics teach us that it was from god .but after all of the charges against the priests on molestation i cant trust them anymore and would like to ventor into different thoughts would apprieciate any info
Comment by Jesus Dude: ¶
I think your all wrong! Religion is nothing but pure good in our society! And George Bush is a gifted orator and Barry Bonds isn’t shooting steroids either!
I’m just so pissed off I feel like drilling a hole in this world and dropping all of you into the Endless Void below it.
By the way, evolution is just a rumor by economists hoping to devalue our fair American Dollar, don’t believe a word of it!
Comment by del: ¶
fucking hell; to the guy who says evolution makes no sense- what the fuck? get help. the reason why we dont look like fish is because things evolve differently to take advantage of different ecological niches- if we all looked like fish, NOTHING would be able to populate Earth’s land masses- and this would put pressure on the resources of the sea. Evolution occurs when there is environmental pressure which allows for selection of mutated traits which act in favour for survival e.g. one type of bird in the Galapenos islands evolved into several different types with different beak shapes, which allowed them to all eat different kinds of food (and therefore be less competitive on the same food types, therefore more likely to survive). the reason why we are such complex creatures is because we have had millions, no, billions, of years to develop slowly in this manner, it is a process so slow it is invisible from one generation to the next however overall the evidence of evolution is staggering. Religion cannot answer why only simple animal fossils are found in the lower layers of rock, and the further up you examine rocks, the more complex the organisms become- but linked to the layer above in below in terms of underlying shape. Evolution is UNDENIABLE and darwin only said it was only a theory because the church created an uproar at the time and tried to stifle publication of his ‘theory’ altogether. Any organisation which OPPOSES incredible scientific discoveries such as this should be dissolved on principle. as for your argument for science being unable to explain where the universe came from- if god created it, how did he do that? and if everything has a creator, who created god? it is impossible for him to create himself, as he would not have existed before he created himself. essentially, you must reply, ‘i dont know’ as do scientists, as the question is unanswerable. But whats the point of answering a question with something that only succeeds in raising 100000 more serious counter-arguments? its clearly fallacious. To summarise, the bible says the earth is 10,000 years old (impossible) god created himself (impossible) and men are better than women (a fact which female christians usually overlook along with many other facts from the bible because, though supposedly ‘the gospel truth’ by definition, they find this particular belief distasteful: yet STILL say because the bible says “god created everything” it must be true, because the bible says so. Finally, the bible is supposed to be entirely true, because its the word of god. How do we know this? because the bible says so. How do we know what the bible says is true though? because its the word of god.how do we know this though? because the bible says so. How do we know what the bible says is true though? because its the word of god.how do we know this though? because the bible says so. SEE SOMETHING WRONG HERE????? get a grip you fucking weak minded idiots.
Comment by Jeremy: ¶
First, the Christian church knew the Earth was the center of the Universe. That was wrong. Then they knew it was flat. Wrong again. Then they knew that illnesses were caused by demons or the devil. Well, that was wrong too. Today, the Christian church knows that all life was created by God. Oh, yeah, and homosexuality is the work of the devil. So, are priests that molest boys servants of the devil? Don’t get me wrong. I am not against just the Christian religion. Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhist, and everyone else on down the lot are blinded by those that impose their will on others. The Churches of Christ and of other religions have been wrong so many times before. Isn’t it about time they realize it?
Comment by Kai Knuth (Kaiza Killa): ¶
Certain religions and religious beliefs drive me up the wall I could kill some of those catholic fucks, I have 6 knees and 26 fingers, I listen to White Noise and complain about dogs.
I am a juggalo who follows the gospel and preachings of the DARK CARNIVAL, i love clowns and my belief is that the path to Shangri-La lies in open mindedness and alowing people to be them selves without being critisised.
Comment by nikki: ¶
religion = shit. it was made up a really mother fuckin longass time ago so people who were dumbfucks and couldn’t explain shit had a god damn answer. yeah and fucking evolution doesn’t explain it all? does a little man in the sky making everything explain it better? what the fuck?!?! lol fucking religious idiots.
Comment by nikki: ¶
jeremy.. your comment basically explains everything.
Comment by The Old Master: ¶
Somebody needs to state the obvious. Religion evolved along with humans because it was a valuable survival tool. The fact that every believer has a slightly different take on it provides the mutations that evolution provides. Unfortunately, when conditions change we are stuck with yesterday’s survival tools. Not only did religion never have anything to do with truth, now it is a pack of lies totally unsuited for today’s problems. There is going to be a pile of death and destruction before it evolves into the tool we need to survive on what by then will be a totally overpopulated and befouled planet. Enjoy.
Comment by : ¶
Try this: ask your best friend for a couple of cents. He’ll give them to you. Ask God for a couple of cents. Nothing. Ask him to make your finger tingle. Nothing. Ask him to help some starving people. Nothing. I’d say you should bow down and worship your best friend and screw the invisible guy. On a related note: you’d think that really religious people would get some sort of perks here on Earth. Like the Pope - shouldn’t he live a healthy, robust life of 200 years? Instead he ailed for 1/4 of his days and died relatively young. Those are the miracles you can expect from your invisible friend in the sky. Now go devote your whole existence to him.
Comment by Mike: ¶
So Amanda, Who made god? Where did god come from? Something had to create god.
Comment by The Old Master: ¶
So how does religion differ from delusion? Both involve belief in things for which there is no evidence. Successful religions are more like organized delusion.
How does one test himself to see if he is brainwashed? If you were truly concerned about the truth you would certainly want to convince yoiurself you weren’t. I know I would.
So about this method of arriving at great truths through blind faith, are there some testable cases where this works, or does it only work for things I get to test after I’m dead? How come some people who use it arrive at totally different results, usually the results they are told to have?
So if one embraces some story unconditionally and without evidence, it seems that the chance of hitting on the truth is pretty slim, i.e. you’re lying to yourself. How does that make you a moral person, exactly? And you might even do something radical like vote based on the lie you told yourself. Great. Suppose as an abstract example that the world had a population far above what anyone can demonstrate is sustainable, say 6 billion. And yet, your preferred pack of lies tells you to wear funny underwear and have as many children as possible, thereby incrementally diminishing my quality of life with each one. So what is my rational move? Embrace our diversity? The only advice I can offer is not too care too much; just be amused as a species is brought down by misusing its giant brain.
Grrrr…
Comment by Joe Blow: ¶
I met a christian the other day who told me the most bizarre thing I have ever heard. When confronted with an ancient dinosaur fossil he said, “That was put in the earth by satan to deceive us.” I could not believe what I had just heard. But then again I recently read an article stating that a school board in Kansas is trying to put creationism back in the textbooks. Can you believe, here we are in the 21st century and some nut is still debating evolution and wanting to preach creationism to our kids in PUBLIC SCHOOLS. To me the most frightening part is that there are people like him who hold power in this country now. We are surely doomed unless we stop this kind of thinking.
Comment by me!: ¶
You cant really blame people for believing so much in religion what else is there to live for?BUT i do know its not right to take out science facts in texts books just because some religious person doesnt like it. You cant bend the rules of the school systems! i mean all the science in the books are facts.. HOPEFULLY THEY DONT or are schools and are country are going to get farther behind in education!
Comment by The Old Master: ¶
Mr Blow,
Correction. We are already doomed, because of that kind of thinking.
Comment by The Old Master: ¶
Mr Me,
Good point. It’s much better to live for a pretty pack of lies than an unvarnished truth.
Comment by da king: ¶
religion is all BULLSHIT! i cant believe that anyone actually believs that shit. if you are religious then fuck off you ignorant, arrogant bastard. Heaven and hell? what is this shite just go away and finger yourself.
Comment by fuck it: ¶
FOR ALL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE. WHO FUCKING MADE GOD? HE CANT JUST COME OUT OF NO WHERE AND START MAKING CRAP. THATS WHY ITS religion is in my opinion, bullshit.
Comment by Carlos: ¶
That guy who claimed that Hitler and Mussolinni were atheists really shocked me. They were christian conservatives, in fact they both developed stronger christian control over schools. And to Amanda, the “god” concept is not given any credit by saying that “something cannot come from nothing” because your “god” is something right? Where did he come from?! If everything is made by something else then he must also come from something and so on and so forth.
Comment by Sören Kuklau: ¶
I don’t know about Mussolini, but whether Hitler was Christian is a highly-debatable topic. He grew up in catholic backgrounds and mutually supported the Roman Catholic church, but at the same time, he tried hard to diminish religious control over the people inside Germany.
Calling him an atheist, on the other hand, seems unfitting especially with many of his quotes (cf. http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_hitler.html ) — he merely had somewhat “unorthodox” Christian views, especially wrt/ the function of Jesus.
Comment by The Old Master: ¶
How come a bunch of our religious friends are only down on evolution? If an all powerful god exists, there are no rules except his, and he’s not telling. Thus all science is meaningless. No result is predictable; Every result is just god’s whim; The fact that his whim concerning gravity hasn’t changed a bit that we know of doesn’t mean that he won’t change his mind tomorrow and things will start falling sideways instead. Why god has chosen to fool us by making there appear to be natural laws is an interesting question for theologians. My guess is that he is testing our faith. It takes a person of strong faith to claim that god created fossils to fool us but it takes someone truly devout to deny that force is in any way related to mass times acceleration.
Comment by Audrey: ¶
Religion sucks. I hate religion. I hate the very base of religion. I hate the stupid freaking bible, and the stupid freaking churches….AND THE STUPID FREAKING LIES!! My friend, who’s a mormon was talking to me once. I told her I liked rap. She glared at me and said I shouldnt ever talk to a black person. I asked her why. She told me the story about Adam and Eve’s twin sons….and how once of them got “cursed” with black skin. This is fucking bullshit. It’s bullshit that homosexuality is a sin, because, its genetic people. Or maybe its their choice, I dont really care. It sickens me that they arent allowed to marry in the USA Because the president is freaking RELIGIOUS!!!!!!! They are people like anybody else, they just have a different sexual preference. If you dont like it, then dont stay around it. Hey, if you dont like them because it makes you uncomfortable, its okay, but it doesnt give you the right to hurt them (im not implying that you do, its just i know a lot of people who have) anyways I’m getting off subject. Many horrible things happened because of religion (spanish inquisition for example). Its horrible. simply because they werent christian, the jews were killed. THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT! All this “you will burn in hell” and “dont have sex before your married” and “ethical” stuff is a bunch of shit! Dont even try the argument that if those things are ethical than murder should be too. Murder is simply taking a human life, and everyone should know its wrong. Having sex before marriage is hurting no one. I’m sorry, I’m really getting of subject, but religion makes me so FUCKING MAD! I hate the LIES about religion,I HATE IT!! I dont hate religious people unless they try to convert me, after i’ve said no. and that has happened ALOT. I dont like religious people who hate atheists simply because of beliefs. I hate people like them. I HATE THEM. Its a fucking story to make a few people feel good about their lives. As the saying goes, “jesus loves you, everyone else thinks your an asshole.” Science has been proven, has any part of religion been??? Please respond.
Comment by The Old Master: ¶
Audrey, Actually science hasn’t been proven, it just looks for the simpliest model that fits our observations. That’s as good as we can do.
As for religious assholes, if being a religious asshole is a good genetic survival strategy, evolution makes it likely thay we’ll have lots of religious assholes. Not that religious assholery is genetic, exactly, but the tendency toward it undoubtedly is. We simply need to create an environment where religious assholes can’t genetically thrive. Right now, if god tells you to have 10 kids, you don’t have a very big chance of dying in childbirth and society will generally try to keep the kids alive and we are rewarded with 10 new people with religious assholistic tendencies. Look at Utah.
Don’t respect religious beliefs. Look down on them with pity and scorn. And whatever you do, don’t have sex with any of those people.
Comment by Kyle: ¶
Okay, ill try to be nice about it. I read nearly half of the posts in this thread, and Amanda has to be one of the dumbest people on earth. It is better that she goes to church because the last place I would want her to be is behind a bunson burner. She would most likely kill herself by trying to convince the class the fire wouldnt hurt her because God created it and he protects her. Amanda please stop that garbage from flowing out of your mouth. I think Amanda is actually a 36 year old fat guy just trying to get a rise out of people, but still, do the world a favor and stop.
Comment by Bubble Tea Rocks! <3: ¶
Please stop with the name calling. How old are you kids anyways… 12, well you’re acting it? So and so is stupid. Come up with a good point for your side instead of just “Religion is BS” —-> I think I’ve read that like 20 times! Okay, we get it… you think its bullshit. Secondly, I respect all your opinions, I’m in a questioning stage myself and don’t know what to believe. 1. All of you think evolution is very black and white…NO! As a University student studying Anthro, I know that evolution as we (human scientists) know it is…for example: -Two giraffes -One Long Necked/One Short Necked -Short necked (through EVOLUTION) became exstinct because it starved, not being able to reach the high leaves.
Thats Evolution. To say we grew from Bacteria or Apes is way too complex and dated so far back, that there are only theories. God can be a theory too.
- Allergies: are a form of evolution. If a human is allergic to Peanuts, its nature’s way of telling them, you shouldn’t be alive (Its harsh, but I’m talking nature right now)… obviously minor allergies like Rag Weed is nothing, but lets try to get the big picture.
I guess what I’m trying to say is, that you guys are over-using “evolution”. Some believe, some don’t. Personally, I think if we evolved from apes, why are apes still prominantly existant? And I know what you’re going to say, so don’t bother. That’s just MY theory.
Religion= Budism/Hinduism/Christianity… All of which have the Golden Rule of “Treat Others with Love” So if you don’t like christianity… then say that, not “religion”. Not every religion has the bible. Try reading about Peganism…amazing religion, has nothing to do with God, it’s about spiritual energy in everything.
Comment by Audrey: ¶
thankyou old master!! woo-hoo. Actually, I live in Utah so I’m surrounded by mormons. I will definitely never have sex with any of those people. What i meant by science was proven, I meant that scientists’ have made hypothesis (sorry, my spelling is kind of off) for experiments and sometimes after the experiment they are right. I’m saying that I’ve never seen a miracle of god or any of that bla bla bla……well nice to have someone who hates the